Wednesday, 15 February 2012

My Family | Minchiate Courts

Thought I would start a regular meme where we can look at the Courts of various decks - especially decks that are a bit different to the RWS style.

Have you ever taken a look at the Minchiate Tarot? It's massive!  Not only are there your standard Major Arcana cards (give or take one or two), Minors and Courts - but all the Zodiac cards, Virtues and Elements, giving a grand total of 97 cards.  I *know*.  Fascinating.  Murder to learn though :-)

The Court Cards are intriguin.  Of course, they are a the sort of courts that can make you weep because not only is there a dearth of helpful symbolism, but their names aren't even on the cards.

The accompanying book offers a fascinating insight into how THESE courts are to be interpreted.


This is the Sword family - running from King on the left down to the Knave on the right.

The book, by Andrea Vitali, defines them as:

Knave - Young man who causes suffering
Knight - Man who vehemently inflicts pain
Queen - Authoritarian woman who inflicts pain as a means to an end
King - Authoritarian man who causes pain without having to justify his actions

Yes, in this deck, Swords are simply 'painful situations' - think of their Swords used solely for hurting.

Wands don't fare much better. Here's their family:


And here's what the Minchiate book says about them.....

Knave - young man who creates problems
Knight - young man who creates problems with certain outbursts
Queen - ambiguous woman who creates problems
King - authoritarian man who creates problems without having to justify his actions

Yep - Wands are aaaaaalllll about problems - think of their Wand as a wooden spoon, stirring it!

Do the Cups family score any better?


Of course, this time I scanned the Cups with the Knave to the left and the King on the right.  Consistent? You must be getting me mixed up with someone else.....

Knave - Young woman offering gifts
Knight - Youn man who offers positive opportunities regularly
Queen - Authoritarian woman who acts out of affection as an end to a means
King - Authoritarian man who offers gifts, affection, love and help without having to justify himself to anyone

Clearly the Cups are regarded as uniformly positive guys (the book calls them 'positive situations') - think of that cup as a loving gift to someone.

And what of the Pentacle clan?  


....and back to King on the left and Knave on the right....like I said, consistency is not my strong suit ;-)

The book describes the realm of Coins as 'Happy Situations', so they're going to be Goodies.

Knave - a young woman who creates situations that bring happiness
Knight - a man, present for a long time, who offers love, availability and great affection.
Queen - an authoritarian woman who intentionally inflicts pain .......

WWWWoooooooaaaaa *slams on brakes* This is clearly an error.  I checked with the Italian words in the same book and then typed off a query missive to Lo Scarabeo .  They kindly (and immediately) replied with the correct translation 'an authoritive woman who gives good things for the right reason.'

King - an authoritarian man who offers beautiful things without having to justify himself.

Actually,  Andrea Chiarvesio of Lo Scarabeo suggested replacing 'authoritarian' with 'authorotative' for that definition - which could then apply to the other Queens that have been labelled that way. This makes them all feel a bit less imperious, don't you think?

So the Minchiate Courts are full of Kings who answer to no-one and Queens who act consciously with an outcome in mind.  The Swords and Wands are without doubt troublesome characters in the Minchiate with no redeeming features whatsoever and the Cups and Pentacles are the families whom you want living next door.

And the Knight of Pentacles seems to be Mr Right.....  Something that I hadn't much considered.  But, now that I think about the RWS knights - aren't the Knights of Wands and Swords the first into battle and the dogged Knight of Pentacles the one who remains there after the other three have left the field? Yep he would do me fine as Mr Right :-)

Do the descriptions of the Minchiate Courts rock your own thoughts about particular courts - or could they add clarity?

What do you think? 

Copyright information:  Deck: Minchiate, Published by Lo Scarabeo, accompanying book written by Andrea Vitali

You can buy it here

12 comments:

  1. I think I am very intrigued by the Minchiate, but not feeling quite that brave right now. I wonder if the suits are all this black and white about swords, wands, cups and coins. I like the art and it doesn't bother me that they're not labelled. And to be honest, I rarely pay much attention to LWBs beyond a first reading. All that to say, I think they are all a bit oversimplified, but might make a good shorthand, those descriptions. But as a Queen of Swords myself, I must say, I do NOT intentionally inflict pain. Well, not all the time.

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    1. The Minor Arcana are just pips, but a quick look over the accompanying book gives simple one line interps for them and yes, I think it's fair to say that, on the whole - the minor Swords are just as pointy as the Courts - for example - 4 Swords= Suffering that induces prayer; 10 Swords - maximum pain, after which there will be stagnation or a come-back.....

      Ali x

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  2. Well these seem to be sort of "black and white" blanket statements so doubt I can agree on 'em. For example, I happen to like the Swords courts - I tend to see them as intelligent, sharp, logical, and brutally honest. What would be wrong with that? And as a Queen of Swords, I actually hate causing pain and do what I can to avoid it! Having a sword in the hand makes you more conscious of the damage you can do - I rarely pull mine out. :)

    Interesting deck though.....I just don't like the limited descriptions here.

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  3. It's interesting, isn't it? But those interpretations came from the accompanying book and were intended to be used with that deck.

    It poses a question - could readers work with a deck where they disagree with the LWB's interpretations, even if they like the artwork? Should they?!

    Ali x

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    1. Should they? Sure. I actually advocate for interacting with the cards as themselves and then checking the LWB.

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    2. This is so interesting, Arwen - it would seem, from responses here (and on other platforms) that it is the artwork that sells the deck and not necessarily the system behind it. Decks without LWBs coming next, perhaps?!

      Ali x

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    3. Yes, readers absolutely should ignore the book, why not? If I don't agree with the interpretation in the book, I certainly ignore it. There are already decks that come without LWBs, and plenty that come with LWBs that are less than worthless! :)

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  5. Yep, I'm a Queen of Swords and I don't inflict pain...unless you beg reeeeally nicely *slaps riding crop against boots*

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  6. Hello! I purchased this deck from someone and found that the Valet of Swords (Knave) card is missing! I am wondering if anyone has an incomplete deck and would like to sell that card to me or if I could get a clear hi-res photo of it so I can see if a printer can make a replacement for me. Feel free to contact me tamiep@gmail.com

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    1. You should contact the publisher of the deck and ask whether they might have a single card that they can sell you. They probably won't charge for the card (well, maybe postage and packing) but I always find that offering to pay can get you a little further along the road. Good luck! <3

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